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Roz

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Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« on: August 09, 2013, 01:10:48 pm »
Just wanted to gauge what people would think about this.

Rationale:
MU's carry the financial burden of supplying the bulk of the UK's active fighters.
Work tax will very likely lead to a reduction in supply (or limit the ability to supply more people).
Net result is a weaker fighting force.
Government only really needs money for MPPs now - rest has effectively been 'privatized'

Options:
Government could refund MUs based on taxes collected (would have to be by some sort of ratio? Government cannot see what individuals pay in taxes I assume)
Government could purchase Q7 tanks with tax income and redistribute to MUs (again based on a ratio of the 'active' membership base?)

Thoughts, comments, debate?
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Iain Keers

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 01:15:37 pm »
You're talking 40gbp per 240 companies...seems like it's hardly worth it
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 01:33:54 pm »
I'd support a subsidiary for any British MU that runs a supply system, they're critical to our country and already at a disadvantage by staying in the UK to supply, if that's what they're doing.

Commanders should supply the names of suppliers, how many companies production they contribute and then we look at what we can afford. A spreadsheet to do the calculations could be drawn up and passed around MoF's and I'd advocate a monthly rebate. £20 a day for 100 companies for a month adds up to £600 a month. Not spectacular but I feel it would be better with the supplier than the gov
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 01:42:27 pm »
hmm, we could reimburse 50%, or maybe 75% of what they paid in taxes. Just an idea I'm throwing onto the table: I do like roz's idea. 40gbp is worth like, what 40,000 damage (forgot how much q7's cost)?

Maybe just the biggest ones, you know. Otherwise we've got too much paperwork to fill out and money to donate back.
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 01:52:50 pm »
What about our Polish based suppliers?






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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 01:58:51 pm »
What about our Polish based suppliers?



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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 02:02:47 pm »
Poland based suppliers still have the 1% tax. The difference is, it's not our government providing for it. I'm an advocate of increasing government income and at 1% the loss to MUs would be minuscule given some already try to make a profit from some of their companies anyway.

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 02:03:45 pm »
Why should government be involved?

They have very little control over any MU so why pay for nothing? If you don't like the tax then don't WAM

If this really raises more taxes then put it into a government MU to set Combat Orders


Wayne

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 02:06:22 pm »


If this really raises more taxes then put it into a government MU to set Combat Orders



pretty nifty idea tbf





Roz

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 10:32:28 pm »
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme.
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Bohemond4

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 10:55:24 pm »
We have a Ministry of Defence MU for the combat orders, probably best use of the extra tax money, although you would have to propose a law to move it into either the MU or an org.

Alternatively, we can also use it to fund extra MPPs
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 10:55:45 pm »
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme.


I miss CTA.

I like it, but how much money are we talking here?

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 10:57:15 pm »
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme.


I miss CTA.

I like it, but how much money are we talking here?

What does CTA stand for again? It reminds me of something, but I mustn't have seen it in ages.
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Talon Karrde

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2013, 10:59:53 pm »
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme.


I miss CTA.

I like it, but how much money are we talking here?

What does CTA stand for again? It reminds me of something, but I mustn't have seen it in ages.

Call to arms.

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Sexagenarian

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2013, 11:02:30 pm »
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It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme

The problem with CTA is that it isn't targeted other than at the general UK population. Combat Orders on the other hand can be aimed at a specific battle under the precise conditions that the government wants.

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2013, 11:08:29 pm »
We could give tax money to MU leaders in order for them to donate it to the MU to be used to coordinate damage through this new paid-per-hit system. Or just buy supplies.
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2013, 11:31:00 pm »

The problem with CTA is that it isn't targeted other than at the general UK population. Combat Orders on the other hand can be aimed at a specific battle under the precise conditions that the government wants.
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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2013, 11:56:38 pm »
Quote from: Roz
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme

The problem with CTA is that it isn't targeted other than at the general UK population. Combat Orders on the other hand can be aimed at a specific battle under the precise conditions that the government wants.

hmmm, that sounds intelligent, planned, working,.... simply not suitable for our traditional TUP(leaned) governments who prefer chaos, tears and misery (and trolling).

Please, next time, adjust to our existing human resources and its limitation.

Bohemond4

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2013, 12:24:02 am »
Quote from: Roz
It could also be set aside for use as a 'Call to Arms' type scheme

The problem with CTA is that it isn't targeted other than at the general UK population. Combat Orders on the other hand can be aimed at a specific battle under the precise conditions that the government wants.

hmmm, that sounds intelligent, planned, working,.... simply not suitable for our traditional TUP(leaned) governments who prefer chaos, tears and misery (and trolling).

Please, next time, adjust to our existing human resources and its limitation.

o.0

This statement is just plain fallacious and obviously took into account my statement agreeing with Sexagenarian. Seeing as the last TUP Government took steps to prepare for the inclusion of combat orders in the eUK through obtaining a government MU and I also asked Sambo to trial it through RN, as well as Legion trialling the system to see how it works I don't see how your argument holds water.

Just because we have not set any does not mean we are not prepared to use it...
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Iain Keers

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Re: Discussion - could MU's be work tax exempt?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2013, 12:39:51 am »
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