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Title: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on July 28, 2013, 05:03:43 pm
So it turns out that admins now have access to all the private party forums.  That's something which was stamped out a long time ago and I can only assume this changed when the forums were migrated to this software.

It's something that should have been dealt with immediately.

The only reason I know this is because Butjam just posted in the TUP forum.  I won't reveal the content since I'd probably get banned for leaking :P  Let's just say he hasn't understood that this is fundamentally wrong.

I assume moderators don't share this level of access???  Anyway, fix it immediately please.  Ban yourself while you're at it Butjam, since this is obviously an abuse of your position  (/_<)
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sir Humphrey Appleby on July 28, 2013, 05:05:16 pm
To be in both the UKRP and TUP forums at once is a heinous crime
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 05:09:58 pm
Mods don't have that access no. I also can't alter administrator permissions and stuff like that, that has to come from Kumnaa as far as I can see.

I know its wrong that I read the thread, since becoming admin I've just marked posts from other parties as read. This hasn't been an issue as it has been UKRP actually active, which I am a member of, a games thread or something which is clearly not for me to read. This time I saw the board title 'general' and thought I should make a contribution, not realising that it was the wrog board.

Once again, I apologise profusely, I'd hope that people know me well enough to know that I don't give a damn about stuff enough to spy on people, and that I'm just glad that the thread I've made a mistake like this on isn't full of sensitive information.

Until kumnaa fixes it I'll use the 'show unread' functions from the board index to make sure this doesn't happen again
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on July 28, 2013, 05:19:06 pm
It shouldn't require you making a mistake by posting in a forum you shouldn't have access to for it to be spotted.  You should have realised that you shouldn't have the access ages ago and dealt with it then.

Whether you're actively spying on parties or not, the only way for people to be sure is if you don't have access and aren't able to grant yourself access.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 05:22:58 pm
It shouldn't require you making a mistake by posting in a forum you shouldn't have access to for it to be spotted.  You should have realised that you shouldn't have the access ages ago and dealt with it then.

Whether you're actively spying on parties or not, the only way for people to be sure is if you don't have access and aren't able to grant yourself access.
I'm always able to grant access to myself but we have logs for that fortunately.

As I said, I cannot physically change the admin group myself, I will carry on hunting for a fix now but as far as I know at the moment, it needs Kumnaa intervention
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Barlow on July 28, 2013, 05:25:57 pm
Another great success.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 28, 2013, 05:40:26 pm
Admin group is set to all access, creating a new group and setting that with all the backend permissions and no additional view rights is the solution...but I sincerely doubt butjam gets around to doing that, as it would not only require him to put forth effort, but strip him of his access to things.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 05:43:11 pm
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=397005.0

This is the closest fix/situation I've found so far, it just seems arduous and time consuming. Will post more possible solutions as I trawl.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Barlow on July 28, 2013, 05:43:22 pm
Butjam is the greatest, smartest admin on any internet forum. What could go wrong?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 28, 2013, 05:47:23 pm
Or just do what I said, as it's much easier than reading all the forums to find out that what I said is the solution.

But, like I said...that would require effort from butjam.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Malkaiser on July 28, 2013, 05:49:14 pm
In a related issue I was told when the new forums came up that Invalidation was on the TUP forums. Is this still the case? If so shouldn't he be removed as he isn't TUP in game?

It's related because the old forums had a one party forum per account rule. You couldn't be on two party forums, or in one party in game and another on the forums unless you left the country.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 05:50:04 pm
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=227471.0

More solutions, this would require some PHP editing and is incredibly messy.

Pfeiffer, your suggestion doesn't work because I need core admin privileges.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sexagenarian on July 28, 2013, 05:51:52 pm
I disagree.

One of the main jobs of the Admin is to act as policeman on ALL boards. If illegal (RL illegal not eRep) content is posted in a private forum the owners/admins will still be responsible for it. Just because TUP have something to hide does not absolve the Admins from legal responsibility
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 28, 2013, 05:55:08 pm
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=227471.0

More solutions, this would require some PHP editing and is incredibly messy.

Pfeiffer, your suggestion doesn't work because I need core admin privileges.

No, you don't. You make the new group, then you put yourself in it, then you get yourself removed from the Admin group. I can't remember if you can remove yourself from groups...been a long time since I've used it.

I disagree.

One of the main jobs of the Admin is to act as policeman on ALL boards. If illegal (RL illegal not eRep) content is posted in a private forum the owners/admins will still be responsible for it. Just because TUP have something to hide does not absolve the Admins from legal responsibility

Which is why kumnaa (as owner) exists. He's legally responsible, if he wants to not pay attention that's fine.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar on July 28, 2013, 05:56:54 pm
I disagree.

One of the main jobs of the Admin is to act as policeman on ALL boards. If illegal (RL illegal not eRep) content is posted in a private forum the owners/admins will still be responsible for it. Just because TUP have something to hide does not absolve the Admins from legal responsibility

While that's true - and no matter what, the responsibility lies with the admin - the job of ensuring everything in order for the party forums is established as being delegated to party and who it chooses.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Malkaiser on July 28, 2013, 06:01:02 pm
That is a great point, the admins do probably need to be able to see everything because they are liable for child porn etc...

The real issue I think isn't an all seeing admin, it's a politically active in one party all seeing admin. Just yesterday I had Butjam crack down on me for mentioning his party as a consistent supporter of legislation. I think he has done a decent job but he probally needs to step back from UKRP and it's coalition.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 06:09:14 pm
I disagree.

One of the main jobs of the Admin is to act as policeman on ALL boards. If illegal (RL illegal not eRep) content is posted in a private forum the owners/admins will still be responsible for it. Just because TUP have something to hide does not absolve the Admins from legal responsibility
I don't need access myself though, that's the argument. It's the board moderators responsibility to make sure illegal stuff isn't there, then I should give myself access to investigate. I fully understand the grievance, especially seeing as this is a competitive game and I'm in another team.

If I can figure out how to make a group with core admin privileges that don't access all boards, then I can have that made, Frerk and myself shifted to there and Kumnaa (who doesn't play) would be fine to have unrestricted access.

I think having someone who can do everything is more important than me accidentally seeing a PP primary result though, as Frerk and Kumnaa are both tied up in RL stuff at the moment I am unwilling to nerf my ability to edit and make changes to the forums.

I just ask people to remember that I have been trusted with the countries money before now, almost all the buttons (6 flowerig votes <_<) and the wealth of information that comes from being admin anyway. After all of this, my biggest abuse of power has been editing someones post to boost my ego

Oh, and Goku, you can ask Talon and Mantle who were involved in a snooker game when your post came up, I locked it because it was the biggest and lowest hanging fruit for even more insults and abuse I've sewn in a while. In case you forget, I gave you suggestions for how to open it in a more constructive manner and it worked, we got a sensible thread from it.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 28, 2013, 06:14:41 pm
I already told you how to fix it.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 06:23:43 pm
I already told you how to fix it.
As far as I understand from my reading on the situation, there are certain abilities available only to members of the core admin group.

Also, I don't think I can remove myself from the admin group, not tried though
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 28, 2013, 07:00:13 pm
I already told you how to fix it.
As far as I understand from my reading on the situation, there are certain abilities available only to members of the core admin group.

Also, I don't think I can remove myself from the admin group, not tried though

Pretty sure there isn't anything you use that you wouldn't be able to sue under my proposal. Have you looked at how many permissions actually exist? There are dozens.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Wayne on July 28, 2013, 07:45:20 pm
Do parties even still use the forums to organise secret stuff?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Iain Keers on July 28, 2013, 09:03:43 pm
Do parties even still use the forums to organise secret stuff?

We stopped using the forums for this reason, but it's still annoying.

Goku: TUP Private Forum is just that, a private forum. We can choose who we allow in, just as you do. Not all of the people with access are even UK citizens, nevermind party members. That's our decision, not yours.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Karacticus on July 28, 2013, 09:08:58 pm
Tee hee.

Did he post in TUP by mistake?

In my day we looked but never touched  :lol:
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 28, 2013, 09:54:41 pm
Tee hee.

Did he post in TUP by mistake?

In my day we looked but never touched  :lol:
I don't even look usually! It's the It's among of the boards I blame, 'general erep discussion' is too much like general for me!
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dishmcds on July 30, 2013, 05:17:24 am
In a related issue I was told when the new forums came up that Invalidation was on the TUP forums. Is this still the case? If so shouldn't he be removed as he isn't TUP in game?

It's related because the old forums had a one party forum per account rule. You couldn't be on two party forums, or in one party in game and another on the forums unless you left the country.

How many parties you belong to in game has no bearing on the forums. It's one party per forum account. Always has been, you just never quite could get over the "What do you mean I can't create fake accounts on the forums and get access to every party?"

That would require you to know how to follow the rules.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on July 31, 2013, 09:00:00 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sexagenarian on July 31, 2013, 09:23:11 pm
Quote from: Dan Moir
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up

I'm sure if you sign a legal contract taking any and all of the legal responsibility of the TUP forum in the caseof anything illegal that happens there, it might speed things up


In any case what exactly are you trying to hide.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 31, 2013, 10:22:22 pm
I already said how to fix it. butjam just doesn't want to and kumnaa doesn't give enough fucks to press the issue right this exact moment...or he's not going to because he owns it and you can deal with that.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on July 31, 2013, 10:28:18 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on July 31, 2013, 10:35:11 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

Yeah, cos the TUP mods aren't capable of spotting anything dodgy  (/_<)

So private forums are no longer private.  Major backwards step and more of us will probably avoid posting in them.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on July 31, 2013, 10:36:40 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

Yeah, cos the TUP mods aren't capable of spotting anything dodgy  (/_<)

So private forums are no longer private.  Major backwards step and more of us will probably avoid posting in them.

I suppose if you count myself and Butjam as the public then yes but then two people have always been able to see everything.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on July 31, 2013, 10:37:47 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

Yeah, cos the TUP mods aren't capable of spotting anything dodgy  (/_<)

So private forums are no longer private.  Major backwards step and more of us will probably avoid posting in them.

I suppose if you count myself and Butjam as the public then yes but then two people have always been able to see everything.

You and Nel don't count for obvious reasons.  Butjam does for also obvious reasons (as does Frerk).

Even if they claim they're not reading them, that's bullshit.  Partly because Butjam proved it by posting in one and partly because there are so few posts that they will basically see every post there is.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on July 31, 2013, 10:39:18 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

Yeah, cos the TUP mods aren't capable of spotting anything dodgy  (/_<)

So private forums are no longer private.  Major backwards step and more of us will probably avoid posting in them.

I suppose if you count myself and Butjam as the public then yes but then two people have always been able to see everything.

You and Nel don't count for obvious reasons.  Butjam does for also obvious reasons.

Sadly the days of having admins who don't play the game are gone.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Metapod on July 31, 2013, 10:43:45 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

I understand why you will always be supreme admin, but surely if Frerk is inactive he should go?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on July 31, 2013, 10:49:58 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

I understand why you will always be supreme admin, but surely if Frerk is inactive he should go?

He has now.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on July 31, 2013, 10:52:48 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

I understand why you will always be supreme admin, but surely if Frerk is inactive he should go?

He has now.
/me panics
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Thedark ace on July 31, 2013, 11:14:01 pm
I don't think anyone wanted it to go like this at all
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on July 31, 2013, 11:43:37 pm
So butjam is now what Frerk was?

OK, this is bullshit.

Massive imbalance in the force and butjam has nowhere near the level of across the board respect Frerk does.

-2/10 would not bang.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Alice on July 31, 2013, 11:51:08 pm
Butjam has been ok. I would prefer he avoids posting in private forums he is not a member of. Otherwise meh, bit more fun than no-one.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Prof Moriarty on August 01, 2013, 12:10:59 am
What this mess needs is a top notch admin like myself to clean up this mess.

Oh wait. We tried that

Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sir Humphrey Appleby on August 01, 2013, 02:17:19 am
Why can't you just differentiate admin powers between yourself and butjam so he can't see non-UKRP party forums?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Bohemond4 on August 01, 2013, 02:22:03 am
if there is an instance of people posting illegal crap on our own private forums, I am sure that we can monitor and report it ourselves to the admin crew if it is that serious a breach...considering we have several ex-Admins in our party mod team its doubly sure TUP can look after itself.

And I am sure that the other parties/MUs are more than capable of their own mod teams. The only Admin I will concede having rights to see TUP forum, or even ESO/UKPP forums is Kumnaa
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Viridi on August 01, 2013, 02:27:16 am
I don't even know why it's a big deal. The political parties in this game are so similar that there's nothing you really need to hide.

If everyone wanted access to the UKRP forum - personally - I wouldn't care because you wouldn't learn anything interesting. I'm sure this is true of all party forums.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Bohemond4 on August 01, 2013, 02:32:08 am
Its the invasion of privacy that we object to rather than anything 'interesting'. Its like letting the government come into your house all the time, some things we can manage ourselves unless its serious, then we can call in the 'cops'
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar on August 01, 2013, 03:12:45 am
Its the invasion of privacy that we object to rather than anything 'interesting'. Its like letting the government come into your house all the time, some things we can manage ourselves unless its serious, then we can call in the 'cops'

I think you're somewhat exaggerating or being overly dramatic there.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Talon Karrde on August 01, 2013, 09:07:37 am
Its the invasion of privacy that we object to rather than anything 'interesting'. Its like letting the government come into your house all the time, some things we can manage ourselves unless its serious, then we can call in the 'cops'

I think you're somewhat exaggerating or being overly dramatic there.

I feel the same way. Maybe it's a northern thing, I want people to butt out and leave some privacy!
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Iain Keers on August 01, 2013, 09:21:36 am
Reason TUP always used the forum is it had the advantages that would come with a standalone tup forum with the convenience of a single log in. That advantage has gone now
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Malkaiser on August 01, 2013, 10:36:45 am
Just what is TUP trying to hide on it's forums!?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Bohemond4 on August 01, 2013, 10:46:48 am
[sarcasm]our plan to take over the world[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Smack on August 01, 2013, 11:42:29 am
Oh god, this is fantastic. People bitch about not having an admin who plays the game, then bitch that someone who's admin and plays the game has admin privileges to view everything.

Never change eUK, never change.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dan Moir on August 01, 2013, 11:56:50 am
Just what is TUP trying to hide on it's forums!?

Just one example would be our polls.  Why should a senior UKRP member get to know who our candidates are and how our polls are going?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on August 01, 2013, 12:15:04 pm
Why can't you just differentiate admin powers between yourself and butjam so he can't see non-UKRP party forums?
We can. There is a core 'administrator' group that can't be altered. Me and Kumnaa are currently in that at the moment, that gives blanket full power control over everything as well as unrestricted access.

We can create a new group with all permissions set to yes, then we'd be able to set it soni can't see boards that I'm not a member of.

Our concern is that if I'm out of this group, certain powers only available to the core admin group won't be available, take how long it took to talk to Kumbaa about this as an example. If we can get someone who doesn't play the game that can be trusted with buttons, I will gladly move to a new group because it's a lot more fun than having people think you're spying on them. The problem is finding that person, because we're limited to Digby who doesn't play. Kdogg isn't associated with anybody but people have questioned him because of his low postcount. Personally, I'd trust them with the admin buttons and I know I'd be able to reach them, whether or not Kumnaa/everyone else is happy with an appointment like that is different

(Also I refute the senior UKRP comment, I was made vPP for the purpose of adventure time gifs, I'm nothing but a hindrance to the party...)
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Smack on August 01, 2013, 02:31:27 pm
I could totally press buttons without giving a shit about parties.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Barlow on August 01, 2013, 02:32:11 pm
So the moral of the story is, don't fuckk things up to start with, then we wont need any admins because everything will be fine.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Karacticus on August 01, 2013, 02:51:35 pm
I could totally press buttons without giving a shit about parties.

Made me smile.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Metapod on August 01, 2013, 03:58:12 pm
Is this fixed yet?  If not, bloody well hurry up.

As the only active admin, butjam needs to administrate the whole forum for which he needs these magic powers. We abandoned the hiding of things from admins when we moved to the new forums and got rid of all but one of them (not including myself)

I understand why you will always be supreme admin, but surely if Frerk is inactive he should go?

He has now.

hue
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Malkaiser on August 01, 2013, 04:03:08 pm
Don't open threads in party forums unless there has been a report. Simple.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on August 01, 2013, 04:34:30 pm
Don't open threads in party forums unless there has been a report. Simple.
I wouldn't even open one then, that's for local mods (or mods with access) to deal with

I have a possible solution, please be patient
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on August 01, 2013, 04:50:14 pm
Don't open threads in party forums unless there has been a report. Simple.
I wouldn't even open one then, that's for local mods (or mods with access) to deal with

I have a possible solution, please be patient

You're a nice guy, so we won't hold our breath.

Not to mention that I've already said how to sort it, and made sure to get that info to kumnaa. Him actually taking the 15 minutes it would require to set it up and implement it is another thing entirely.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on August 01, 2013, 04:55:19 pm
Don't open threads in party forums unless there has been a report. Simple.
I wouldn't even open one then, that's for local mods (or mods with access) to deal with

I have a possible solution, please be patient

You're a lazy bitch, so we won't hold our breath.

Not to mention that I've already said how to sort it, and made sure to get that info to kumnaa. Him actually taking the 15 minutes it would require to set it up and implement it is another thing entirely.
Pfeiffer, cool your tongue, your venom isn't necessary. The majority of people with issues have raised them sensibly and maturelyz try and follow suit.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Pfeiffer on August 01, 2013, 05:08:52 pm
I raised my issues privately with kumnaa, and prior to his canning Frerk with no notice, with Frerk.

You're temporary, because the community won't accept you long term. Sure, kumnaa could force it, but I expect he'll take the first opportunity to lighten the number of messages and threads on the topic. You should like my suggestion, as it would allow you to hold on to more buttons for longer.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on August 01, 2013, 05:26:47 pm
Unlike your motivations, I'm not here for a power trip or ego, I'm here to do a job and make this place run the best I can. As for 'the community won't accept you', please note that this is 'grt Butjam out of our private areas', not 'get Butjam out of the admin seat'. Don't suppose yourself to speak for everyone, if people want me gone then let them say it themselves and if I'm a huge grievance then yes, it would be best for me to step down.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: RodneyMcKay on August 01, 2013, 06:34:19 pm
Okay.

This is getting out of hand, stay on topic and stop the insults or I will start giving warnings out.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Frerk on August 01, 2013, 06:39:58 pm
The reason I added a type of admin who had to be manually given viewing access was to prevent this precise thread from ever coming to be.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Talon Karrde on August 01, 2013, 06:42:42 pm
The reason I added a type of admin who had to be manually given viewing access was to prevent this precise thread from ever coming to be.

HE'S ALIVE!
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on August 01, 2013, 07:09:22 pm
Puny Admins group has been setup. Just need butjam to check it all works.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Frerk on August 01, 2013, 07:23:03 pm
Puny Admins group has been setup. Just need butjam to check it all works.
It works
>__>
<__<
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on August 01, 2013, 07:34:14 pm
Renamed at Frerk's request :(
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Alice on August 01, 2013, 07:49:04 pm
Puny admin group was entirely appropriate!
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Butjam on August 01, 2013, 07:54:15 pm
Puny admin group was entirely appropriate!
Puny admins are best admins <_<
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Niemand on August 01, 2013, 11:33:44 pm
Don't open threads in party forums unless there has been a report. Simple.
I wouldn't even open one then, that's for local mods (or mods with access) to deal with

I have a possible solution, please be patient
Being patient when private things are not private any more is very very much to ask.
Sorry!
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Bohemond4 on August 02, 2013, 01:19:50 am
thanks for sorting this out :)
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dnouser on August 02, 2013, 01:31:06 am
He is a fucking admin, grow the flower up people
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Kumnaa on August 02, 2013, 06:09:30 am
He is a flowering admin, grow the flower up people

This is the internet, you are expecting too much.
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Karacticus on August 03, 2013, 12:01:06 am
Why does everyone say flower?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar on August 03, 2013, 12:03:51 am
Why does everyone say flower?

Because you haven't disabled the filter for rude words?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Karacticus on August 03, 2013, 12:06:37 am
Why does everyone say flower?

Because you haven't disabled the filter for rude words?

Pollen?
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Wayne on August 03, 2013, 12:34:15 am
No one here gives a single flower what you think or want Pfeiffer
Title: Re: Stop spying on us
Post by: Dr Hugh Jardon on August 03, 2013, 01:29:32 am
Why does this thread not surprise me