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Erepublik => General Discussion => Topic started by: BaskB on September 22, 2014, 04:42:17 am

Title: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 22, 2014, 04:42:17 am
I suppose this more aimed toward Butjam than anybody but something anyone left here should comment on also.

Clearly the decline in erep is terminal, in the past few months alone, erep is now down to just over 52k accounts. Even assuming these 52k accounts are all "genuine" players which is highly unlikely, we are now down to less than 1000 accounts player per country (Czech Republic where I currently am is probably down to about 20 active accounts now) and dropping daily. How long is it in reality going to be before they pull the plug now (ie server costs outweigh income!)

Putting aside all differences etc etc etc and ignoring the usual moronic comments I expect will fill this thread what are the plans for the remaining "community" that is left here? Will the site stay erep focused, will Kumnaa shut it down?

While it maybe premature the game is certainly on its last legs, how many here still actually buy gold anymore? Perhaps its time we discussed what to do with regards keeping the Steam/Boblo/Minecraft/Other community groups that are here all together before the game simply dies and we lose everything from the years
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: The Baron Samedi on September 22, 2014, 04:46:29 am
It's a good topic, and one that should be addressed, hopefully.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Lionbeard on September 22, 2014, 09:54:42 am
It would be nice if the forum was kept up for those of us that use BBH, Minecraft and whatever, but without eRepublik there wont be any new people joining the forum (not that there is now) and it seems a waste of money on Kumnaa's part to keep a forum up that's getting one or two posts a week.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: dougal4chaos on September 22, 2014, 12:55:04 pm
the costs of the forum are minimal, maybe £3 a year for the domain name, it can easily be hosted on anyones work/private server as it dosnt require much hdd space and i wouldnt expect it to have much traffic
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Joffrey Baratheon on September 22, 2014, 01:22:49 pm
I was thinking about this as well. I think a major issue we've had is actually getting people into the community in the first place, whether that was because of ingame agendas from erep or erep's problem itself.

I'd like to see the forum stay up, but if it does then we need to start working out ways to bring people in.

Personally though I think something along the lines of a rebrand into some sort of UK Gaming Community with people organising to play games together as an alliance/clan etc would be something people might be interested and also likely to attract the odd new person here and there. If we tie that in with the socialising aspect it could still grow. Hell erep might have actually been holding us back more than anything.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 22, 2014, 01:29:28 pm
We've tried rebranding before. Personally I'm probably one of the highest involvement players and tbh I am no longer buying packs or even logging into the game every day.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Butjam on September 22, 2014, 03:48:55 pm
If Kumnaa is willing to keep this place running then I'm more than happy to do the paltry bit of stuff I do to look after it on a day to day basis. I'd prefer the place to stay open but I don't really think I have or deserve a say
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 22, 2014, 04:45:26 pm
I'll buy the forum and make it active again through community involvement (people who actually play).

I'll unquit and play again only if I can do this, otherwise eUK will remain stagnant and not be worth any time.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 22, 2014, 04:59:14 pm
I'll buy the forum and make it active again through community involvement (people who actually play).

I'll unquit and play again only if I can do this, otherwise eUK will remain stagnant and not be worth any time.

I assume you won't be unquitting then...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: mittekemuis on September 22, 2014, 05:19:00 pm
I'll buy the forum and make it active again through community involvement (people who actually play).

I'll unquit and play again only if I can do this, otherwise eUK will remain stagnant and not be worth any time.


The point is to keep this forum active even when erepublik is dead and it is already terminally ill ... or did I understand this wrong?

PS. Please don't turn this is in a Goku can't quite topic again  :$
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 22, 2014, 06:58:05 pm
Can't the 5 of you who play Minecraft just move to a Minecraft forum?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rory Winterbourne II on September 22, 2014, 07:02:15 pm
And Goku said unto all, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were edead, shall be active again.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 22, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
Goku, let me explain something to you:

Some people here hate me. Some people are ambivalent. Some like me.

Everyone here hates you.

Why do you keep coming back?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Joffrey Baratheon on September 22, 2014, 07:24:24 pm
The point is to keep this forum active even when erepublik is dead and it is already terminally ill ... or did I understand this wrong?

This. At some point those who remain will have to accept that the game is near having the plug pulled, it might still be sometime off but it's clearly nearer than it's ever been.

Some of us would like to turn what remains of a community here into something that lasts and we can all get some joy out of, Now maybe I'm missing some mystery importance left in the game but I'd say that was a far more worthwhile objective than trying to breath life into a forum via a dying game.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 22, 2014, 08:09:33 pm
Could always convert it into a general gaming forum I guess
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: ApronChef on September 22, 2014, 08:21:36 pm
I'd really like this forum to be here regardless of eRepublik.

I've come to hate everyone here, and I'd hate to have to start my campaign of hate somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 22, 2014, 08:33:03 pm
I'll buy the forum and make it active again through community involvement (people who actually play).

I'll unquit and play again only if I can do this, otherwise eUK will remain stagnant and not be worth any time.


The point is to keep this forum active even when erepublik is dead and it is already terminally ill ... or did I understand this wrong?

PS. Please don't turn this is in a Goku can't quite topic again  :$

Mitte, exactly the point. This isnt about the Minecraft forum.This is about the community here as a whole. Goku this isnt about you, or erep or activity in the eUK. You'll notice my OP also mentioned the Boblo (Most active forum on this entire board) and also the Steam Group which many many people are still an active part of.

Erep is on its ass and dying if you cant actually see that then your completely deluded:-

http://www.egov4you.info/countries/world

On the graph 83,000ish on day 2284

Day 2497 - 57000ish.

26,000 lost in less than a year so far. And of the 57000 remaining, how many are Multis or 2 clicking no gold buyers?

Put your ego aside and as part of the community whether you like or hate half the people here alot of us would like to stay in touch in the future.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Mic on September 22, 2014, 09:41:03 pm
eRepublik died when they pulled they got rid of V2.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar on September 22, 2014, 10:15:53 pm
Our lord Bob Boblo will save us in the face of any strife we may have.

I do think dividing this place from eRep isn't a terrible idea though, given its inevitable decline as a browser game.

We do all have a lot in common besides and a number of micro-communities. Obviously it's up to everyone and ultimately Kumnaa but I think the most sensible direction would be to decentralise a little for the larger groups of interests and set up structures for gaming and perhaps the off-topic/BBH. There are a number of games a large number of us play, and some that we could even find a way to get revenue from if the forum were set up properly and we had enough people interested (think CS:S communities).
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: dougal4chaos on September 23, 2014, 08:45:37 am
Goku, let me explain something to you:

Some people here hate me. Some people are ambivalent. Some like me.

Everyone here hates you.

Why do you keep coming back?

this is why we need s a thumbs up button
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: VoodooMike71 on September 23, 2014, 01:50:52 pm
If eRep is on it's last legs, why don't we all bail out and find something new and shiny to get into. Any suggestions?

(obviously, no-one tell Goku what's decided though)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: paultyndale on September 23, 2014, 02:41:16 pm
Strange how so many people think eRep is on its last legs, maybe that's true, but consider the fate of the alternate games to eRep that have tried similar or varying versions - they are a disaster!  some never seemed to get going at all - including ones that copied V1
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: ApronChef on September 23, 2014, 04:58:32 pm
Strange how so many people think eRep is on its last legs, maybe that's true, but consider the fate of the alternate games to eRep that have tried similar or varying versions - they are a disaster!  some never seemed to get going at all - including ones that copied V1

We're not suggesting another eRep, god no.

I propose a varied community, steam, other online games, why limit ourselves to one game, that results in whats happening now, lets become diverse for once.

Excluding the dickheads tho, they're not included in that diversity.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: mittekemuis on September 23, 2014, 08:10:19 pm
Hey guys if every threat is going to turn in to back and forward with Goku, don't bother even trying to make something of this forum.
This is the highway to trashing what is left of it...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: MarkTD on September 23, 2014, 10:31:01 pm
Can't say I've been here as long as you lot, but still, what's left of the community is pretty great, wouldn't you say? Would be a shame to get rid of the forums...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Alphabethis on September 23, 2014, 10:52:22 pm
I'll have my own game ...soon.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: The Baron Samedi on September 24, 2014, 02:32:04 am
Strange how so many people think eRep is on its last legs, maybe that's true, but consider the fate of the alternate games to eRep that have tried similar or varying versions - they are a disaster!  some never seemed to get going at all - including ones that copied V1

We're not suggesting another eRep, god no.

I propose a varied community, steam, other online games, why limit ourselves to one game, that results in whats happening now, lets become diverse for once.

Excluding the dickheads tho, they're not included in that diversity.

Please no.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 24, 2014, 04:02:14 am
Well nice to see this thread quickly deteriorated into the usual shite we have on here.

I give up, Mittes comment really explained it best:-

Hey guys if every threat is going to turn in to back and forward with Goku, don't bother even trying to make something of this forum.
This is the highway to trashing what is left of it...

Oh and Goku before you start with the whole "victimisation" and they started it bullshit, you were the first in this thread to try and derail it:-

I'll buy the forum and make it active again through community involvement (people who actually play).

I'll unquit and play again only if I can do this, otherwise eUK will remain stagnant and not be worth any time.


"(people who actually play)" - Just to highlight the first dig in the entire thread, You'll find that pretty much everybody in this thread whom has commented STILL plays erep, you were clearly trying to get a dig/bite which you then got and further derailed the thread by then having a pop at one of the sub communities (yes, the minecraft one) and asking them to leave, before then crying about being bullied later in the thread after it derails further into the usual crap:-

My ultimate revenge is making just enough posts to allow Iain & sycophants to tank their karma and taint their very souls with bully-hatred.

NOT ONE POST IN THIS THREAD before your first comment attempted in anyway to derail the thread and people were actually commenting about whst they felt was happening. Clearly you were attempting the bite and when got it cried "wolf". Notice Iain's comment before you even entered the thread had NO slagging off/insults present in it?

So unless you have something of actual benefit to the thread or a reasonable idea of a way forward without slagging off what is left of the community here could I please ask you to stop posting in this thread which is aimed at the WHOLE community not just YOU.

If you have an idea that doesn't involve slagging off the community in anyway then I'm personally happy to listen, what I do find offensive though is the notion that you prefer to just have a dig at what community is actually left than have an adult discussion.

If you feel the forum might be better to be split off so that erep is seperated from all other eUK communites that feel free to actually discuss a proposal on how you would see that implemented, you know perhaps in a sensible fashion?

I personally have No issue with you, you've never done anything to offend me, nor I you as far as I'm aware, but I'd actually like to consider some people on here friends "albeit" internet friends and wish to discuss in an Adult fashion a plan to cater for the future should erep fail (which am sure everyone agrees is becoming inevitable now). Yes I could create/host a minecraft forum, infact it would take me 10 minutes or less, but NOT everyone here I talk too plays Minecraft regular and even those that do might spend more time in other groups, Steam for example.

Butjam, as I'm the owner of the OP please feel free to close this thread IF Goku is unable to actually post a responsible comment that doesn't involve slagging off anybody else.

ALSO out of interest in fairness please feel free to remove the snipe at the death of another forum user. As much as I appreciate it may have been in jest the comment I don't feel has place in this thread as I'm trying to actually get us to address an issue BEFORE the inevitable happens
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Diakun on September 24, 2014, 09:32:17 am
internet friends are allways superior to rl friends
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: ApronChef on September 24, 2014, 09:36:58 am
Can we just make it forum wide that we're removing eRep as our base community?

That way we're free to naturally drop into other games with each other.

We can do this now, but having no official game makes it more visible that we're general gamers playing many games.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: mittekemuis on September 24, 2014, 01:42:48 pm
I would open it up to the rest of the erepublik community first, now that we still have a platform to work with.
We can easily do some advertising in the media. People like me who travelled the different countries know that other eCountries have gaming communities too :)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: ApronChef on September 24, 2014, 04:49:01 pm
I would open it up to the rest of the erepublik community first, now that we still have a platform to work with.
We can easily do some advertising in the media. People like me who travelled the different countries know that other eCountries have gaming communities too :)

I heavily doubt eRep will take kindly to us advertising a forum that will eventually break its allegiance with the game.

We've already expanded to other places, we have several members from other countries, sadly, most of them have quit.

It would be nice to have some new faces, but I don't think we're going to get many from the game itself anymore.

People can try, but it needs to not be advertising, as eRep will just get ban hammer happy.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 24, 2014, 05:46:44 pm
I would open it up to the rest of the erepublik community first, now that we still have a platform to work with.
We can easily do some advertising in the media. People like me who travelled the different countries know that other eCountries have gaming communities too :)

Plato would not want.

Just decide on some re branding and then do it, a game that's pretty much dead isn't really a good platform to work with anyway.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Fatalix on September 24, 2014, 07:28:10 pm
I'd be okay with this place becoming a more general gaming community (let's be honest, a clan) since some of you are decent, and the ones that aren't are at least fun to flower with.
Really, what other options do we have? Move onto a new browser game? They're all pretty awful.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: RodneyMcKay on September 24, 2014, 08:16:25 pm
I quit playing actively a long time ago, but I still want to do what I can to make this forum a nice place for anyone that wants to use it for what ever reason.

I'm all for shifting focus to give everyone a place to keep in contact with friends, even if erep is dying.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: paultyndale on September 25, 2014, 12:13:41 am

I propose a varied community, steam, other online games, why limit ourselves to one game, that results in whats happening now, lets become diverse for once.



this sounds good me thinks :D - there are other games that I could get into, so diversification could work both ways.  It would still provide a valuable accompaniment to erep for those that want it, even bring in new players to erep and bring in more players from erep on to the forum from erep if they have other interests covered here.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: RodneyMcKay on September 25, 2014, 08:33:07 am
I guess we could even have a clan section, let people start their own private groups.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 25, 2014, 09:59:31 am
Unio Vult!
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Wayne on September 25, 2014, 01:19:03 pm
I was surprised to see 11 eUKers have DayZ!

When was the last thread about eRepublik even posted?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 25, 2014, 04:01:18 pm
Wow Bask way to overanalyse something not meant in the way you took it, I was referencing Kumnaa not playing. Which he doesn't.

I was serious, I'll invest a reasonable fee into getting this place active again. It needs a big reform though and not fiddling with small details, we lack many things we could have...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Diakun on September 25, 2014, 04:17:04 pm
most people id say lack things they dont have
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 25, 2014, 06:44:21 pm
Wow Bask way to overanalyse something not meant in the way you took it, I was referencing Kumnaa not playing. Which he doesn't.

I was serious, I'll invest a reasonable fee into getting this place active again. It needs a big reform though and not fiddling with small details, we lack many things we could have...


Off Topic comment aimed at Goku and don't want to continue derailing this thread...

Anyways back on topic as for once we seem to be having a reasonable discussion about ideas, and people want things to progress. I like the idea of sub community sections also, we could keep the erep one aswell as have subs for each other group - Steam, Boblo, MC, D&D etc. Just needs a redesign of the main layout etc.

Goku, while noble, I personally don't think large investment is required. Hosting costs for the current userbase will likely be minimal, having run forums before with just under 100 users I know the bandwidth usage isn't massive until you start adding things like active chat boxes etc in. The basic forum is low bandwidth.

If your talking about increasing the userbase thus advertising etc then yes costs will climb but then of course is that really required? What features do you feel are lacking, no ones actually going to go through with an idea unless you go into further details. And yes I'm interested in hearing the ideas so this isnt a dig in anyway.

Of course all this is irrelevant until someone has spoke to Kumnaa anyway, does anyone have ways of contacting him to join in the discussion? Does he wish to continue hosting etc
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sexagenarian on September 25, 2014, 07:18:00 pm
What is your problem? Surely everyone that you want to keep any sort of relationship with already has your details. I can't see the issue with whether this forum survives or not.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 25, 2014, 11:03:51 pm
Bask you misunderstand again:
It isn't about investment, it's about having someone who actually uses the forum run and improve it. I could add avatar/medal/reputation systems or get PPs invovled in running the forum to enourage them to encourage their members here, at least something new to look at. At the moment we just have years of defeaning silence.

I don't know what you want about "digs". If I name people then I'll get flamed by you, if I try and be subtle I'll get flamed by you - so there is no way to discuss legitimate problems since we have to tiptoe around people's gargantuan egos. Really you probably just want to find a reason to attack me.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 25, 2014, 11:11:05 pm
Nobody likes you goku. You running the forums would be like Kim Jong Un running the US Republican Party.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: CptChazbeard on September 25, 2014, 11:46:50 pm
Nobody likes you goku. You running the forums would be like Kim Jong Un running the US Republican Party.

I don't get it
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Metapod on September 25, 2014, 11:47:32 pm
Nobody likes you goku. You running the forums would be like Kim Jong Un running the US Republican Party.

I don't get it

Me Neither
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: WookieO on September 26, 2014, 12:08:53 am
Nobody likes you goku. You running the forums would be like Kim Jong Un running the US Republican Party.

I don't get it

Me Neither

Oh, I get it.

Actually...no I don't either.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 26, 2014, 01:31:15 am
What is your problem? Surely everyone that you want to keep any sort of relationship with already has your details. I can't see the issue with whether this forum survives or not.

I think the 3 pages of discussions so far render this comment mute as people DO have an interest in keeping this forum alive, but that's just my opinion on the matter.

Bask you misunderstand again:
It isn't about investment, it's about having someone who actually uses the forum run and improve it. I could add avatar/medal/reputation systems or get PPs invovled in running the forum to enourage them to encourage their members here, at least something new to look at. At the moment we just have years of defeaning silence.

I don't know what you want about "digs". If I name people then I'll get flamed by you, if I try and be subtle I'll get flamed by you - so there is no way to discuss legitimate problems since we have to tiptoe around people's gargantuan egos. Really you probably just want to find a reason to attack me.

Goku, I really have no interest in attacking you or anybody for that matter on an internet forum. I was/AM actually genuinely interested in how you think we could move the forum forward, you've given a little more detail in your post now which is a start.

The "Dig" I mentioned in my last post was to try and signify the above again, that I am interested in hearing what you have to add, and I'm not trying to just shoot down your ideas with what I'd written about investment in the forum, infact its completely the opposite I'd like to discuss it further.

So from your idea so far, I see its still very much erep based. Therefore do you think the forum should stay erep focused rather than divulge into various groups? What happens when/if erep fails though, which is seeming more and more likely with what is a daily drop in the active userbase?

I'm assuming your also talking about having not just a Forum Admin (Butjam) seperate to the Web Admin (Kumnaa) but infact having a person/persons operating as both, whom also plays erep or is active in the community. To me that's an idea I can also agree with, and am sure others do also. What we therefore need is a reasonable plan to approach Kumnaa/Butjam with in order to progress further.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 26, 2014, 11:18:01 pm
or get PPs invovled in running the forum to encourage them to encourage their members here, at least something new to look at.

Erep's going down the shitter, as mentioned in pretty much all the previous posts. You won't get many (if any) new members through that method.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Bohemond4 on September 27, 2014, 03:35:30 am
A general gaming forum sounds like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: The Baron Samedi on September 27, 2014, 03:51:32 am
Maybe all play as a clan in a particular game?

Just throwing an idea.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rednoahl on September 27, 2014, 11:29:16 am
While I was only marginally part of the eUK's community I would be sad to see the forums go. It appears to me that with the advent of twitter a lot of people have gotten used to talking on the internet in 140 chgaracters or less and that's it. I rarely post on any forums at all these days because if I write a paragraph nobody reads it - folks expect a soundbite.

Anyway, have you guys thought about using twitch or hitbox instead of the eUK irc channel? I just thought that having an eUK channel would be a good way to keep the community alive if erep does die.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 27, 2014, 06:08:45 pm
So from your idea so far, I see its still very much erep based. Therefore do you think the forum should stay erep focused rather than divulge into various groups? What happens when/if erep fails though, which is seeming more and more likely with what is a daily drop in the active userbase?
There are already lots of gaming forums:

1) I don't see why the Minecraft players can't just join an established Minecraft forum rather than start a new one with 5 guys who are just going to go inactive and it'll fade away - they don't have critical mass to keep it up. Maybe this is small party syndrome creeping out of the game where you spend more effort starting from fresh rather than the less effort needed to slightly tweak an existing group.

2) Most of you are horrible people, we even had a confirmed stalker here. I have IRL friends and an actually rather large niche gaming forum to find guys to play with (and did play eRep with at one point), not to mention things like Youtube, Reddit and Twitch. Am I saying this to upset people and be confrontational/troll? No I have a point here, most of you have people you hate here and don't want to contact ever again. So take your friends here someplace else for general gaming.

3) We actually need a forum for eRepublik UK and at the moment we don't have one because a bunch of minecraft players / inactive "lords" won't give up power to the new generation because of ego and stubboness. This isn't "make an acceptable oldfag attitude IRC only newbie moderator", this is "give Alfagrem some real power to change the forums according to the needs of the 1/3 of eUK he represents". Treat all the PPs in this way each month.


A drop in the userbase means that the UK will win the game if we can keep our own guys entertained, at the moment the same inactive mediocre people (not that new generation) still seem to get all the buttons to never use. If I took over I would be working on backend improvements to the forums in my spare time and letting the victorious PPs each month actually run the forums.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: BaskB on September 27, 2014, 08:43:00 pm
So from your idea so far, I see its still very much erep based. Therefore do you think the forum should stay erep focused rather than divulge into various groups? What happens when/if erep fails though, which is seeming more and more likely with what is a daily drop in the active userbase?
There are already lots of gaming forums:

1) I don't see why the Minecraft players can't just join an established Minecraft forum rather than start a new one with 5 guys who are just going to go inactive and it'll fade away - they don't have critical mass to keep it up. Maybe this is small party syndrome creeping out of the game where you spend more effort starting from fresh rather than the less effort needed to slightly tweak an existing group.

2) Most of you are horrible people, we even had a confirmed stalker here. I have IRL friends and an actually rather large niche gaming forum to find guys to play with (and did play eRep with at one point), not to mention things like Youtube, Reddit and Twitch. Am I saying this to upset people and be confrontational/troll? No I have a point here, most of you have people you hate here and don't want to contact ever again. So take your friends here someplace else for general gaming.

3) We actually need a forum for eRepublik UK and at the moment we don't have one because a bunch of minecraft players / inactive "lords" won't give up power to the new generation because of ego and stubboness. This isn't "make an acceptable oldfag attitude IRC only newbie moderator", this is "give Alfagrem some real power to change the forums according to the needs of the 1/3 of eUK he represents". Treat all the PPs in this way each month.


A drop in the userbase means that the UK will win the game if we can keep our own guys entertained, at the moment the same inactive mediocre people (not that new generation) still seem to get all the buttons to never use. If I took over I would be working on backend improvements to the forums in my spare time and letting the victorious PPs each month actually run the forums.

Humm so after all my comments, not actually insulting you and showing an interest in your ideas, you still cant actually post a single forum reply without actually having a pop or insulting someone?

Consider this my last reply to you and I'll continue discussing with those that can actually have an Adult conversation rather then resorting to insults in every post.

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 27, 2014, 10:47:44 pm
Yeah well you obviously missed my point in saying that even though it was explained... fragile egos. You even illustrate my point perfectly yourself by showing that you don't want to hear from me again. We can't get any improvement because you have to be unoffensive in the extreme, I still remember getting a forum ban for calling a minister "poor".

I guess that you ignored the constructive content of my post because one of the points I made was phrased in a way which allows you to complain instead - which is easier for you to do.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 27, 2014, 10:51:02 pm
A drop in the userbase means that the UK will win the game if we can keep our own guys entertained,

Horice is dead and DC isn't PTO'ing anybody, impossible.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 28, 2014, 01:16:19 am
Goku, you quit saying that this was ruining your life or something. Why can't you just flower off.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: The Baron Samedi on September 28, 2014, 01:51:05 am
flower this, let's make it more simple.

Let's assume eRep dies tomorrow, what new game everyone would like to play as a community?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 28, 2014, 10:40:20 am
Goku, you quit saying that this was ruining your life or something. Why can't you just flower off.
Well this is offtopic Iain!

It's like you have a blind spot where you brain can't comprehend that this forum isn't the game. Two buttons on my phone to read the forum when I am bored isn't the same as the massive effort going into writing articles, mass PMing people etc...

You'll just make the same post next week, like you made this same post for the last three weeks. Like a goldfish?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 28, 2014, 10:53:03 am
Do you not comprehend that by using the forum whilst not playing the game, you're exactly the fucking group you are claiming shouldn't be running the forum?

You're just cancer.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 28, 2014, 12:03:27 pm
Already said that I would play the game if there was the slightest hope of improvement, and also power would be handed over to PPs not myself. Can you not comprehend information or is this just trolling to make people say the same things over and over and over and...

Discussions never move on here because people repeat the same soundbite ad nauseum since they are too stupid to retain information and rememeber previous answers.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: kdoggroundtwo on September 28, 2014, 12:17:30 pm
I have already purged half of this topic once because it's becoming mostly off topic and I don't want to constantly be doing this as the subject is quite important so keep to the subject and ignore the derailers who will be delt with.

Key points

Expanding the forum and becoming a general gaming forum with erep just being a small part of it or how ever it ends up expanding based on the what the community wants. - Amazing idea what we forum mods have begun discussing. The only issue is it would rely on the community making good use of it.

Goku's idea of put him in power and everything will be better. - Not gonna happen. Also the whole "If I was in charge I would do X and Y" thing is a falasy as no one is being stopped from advertising or contributing to the forum but saying you will only do so if you are put in charge is stupid and you might as well go make your own forum.... oh wait...

Kumnaa - He has been left a note. Hopefully he will see it and give his view as really nothing like this can really be done without his OK.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 28, 2014, 01:04:30 pm
Oh lol. "We won't allow that you should contribute to our leadership instead".
Erm... what do you think I am doing? I KNOW you won't allow that, I am however raising points you should act on so I have already contributed. I didn't mention advertising at all.

Put the PPs in charge, not random solo or old players nobody follows.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on September 28, 2014, 01:27:30 pm
We don't want you to play, we want you to go away and never return.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 28, 2014, 05:10:25 pm
Doing a better job at ruining your own credibility than I ever could Iain.

Let's get back on track. What is YOUR vision of the future minus telling me to go away?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Alphabethis on September 28, 2014, 06:23:49 pm
do you realize that THIS ONE is the only alive thread in the forum ? (and the Minecraft ones)

Second point, unfair or not, many people don't want Goku as new forum overlord, actually, I haven't seen anyone supporting him for the post of forum-owner. What's the point in insisting in such a lost cause ?

Third point, the question of bad/good forums is over, now it's about dead or alive. And it's slowly dying. 
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Humphrey Appleby on September 28, 2014, 06:46:20 pm
(http://bluebrainsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/monty.jpg)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Diakun on September 28, 2014, 07:53:31 pm
who gives a shit, carry on as normal and things will work themselves out eventually
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Lady Rainicorn on September 28, 2014, 07:57:27 pm
I think the community is still small but good
But yeah erep is dying and is not really the main focus of this forum now based on posts

Your friendly neighbourhood mod Lady will always be here to give you a biscuit and an encouraging slap on the ass, whatever direction we decided to go
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on September 28, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
Already said that I would play the game if there was the slightest hope of improvement, and also power would be handed over to PPs not myself.

If we keep it as an erep based forum it's not going to get any better, player numbers on erep are going down rather than up, hard to get new players onto the forum if the game can't even draw in new people.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 28, 2014, 09:41:59 pm
It really is entertaining watching this train wreck!

Already said that I would play the game if there was the slightest hope of improvement, and also power would be handed over to PPs not myself.

If we keep it as an erep based forum it's not going to get any better, player numbers on erep are going down rather than up, hard to get new players onto the forum if the game can't even draw in new people.
It will if the people who play eRepublik and have power in eRepublik are allowed to mould the forum into what they need. Give them control.

You have a bunch of busy/ex/hasbeen players managing a forum full of busy/ex/hasbeen players and the eRepublik players are now almost a seperate group seeing nothing for them here.

Like I remember Alfagrem having to negotiate improvements and private forum access with Butjam for UKPP, with Iain saying that he shouldn't get anything. Why the flower were Butjam and Iain even invovled in that discussion when PP of the biggest party wants to use the forums and needs some tweaks or access? It just shows that the forum ISN'T for eRepublik and hasn't been for a while, yet that is where your new users come from lol - no wonder there are so few posts/threads/users here now?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Adastros on September 29, 2014, 12:48:03 am
"Personally though I think something along the lines of a rebrand into some sort of UK Gaming Community with people organising to play games together as an alliance/clan etc " - ACroc about 3 pages ago.


Essentially that. I use IRC far more than the forums but even if they do pull the plug on eRep I'd still like to be apart of the eUK community. So yeah, moving to becoming a general Gaming Clan/Community would be the way to go imo
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Butjam on September 29, 2014, 01:46:47 am
It really is entertaining watching this train wreck!

Already said that I would play the game if there was the slightest hope of improvement, and also power would be handed over to PPs not myself.

If we keep it as an erep based forum it's not going to get any better, player numbers on erep are going down rather than up, hard to get new players onto the forum if the game can't even draw in new people.
It will if the people who play eRepublik and have power in eRepublik are allowed to mould the forum into what they need. Give them control.

You have a bunch of busy/ex/hasbeen players managing a forum full of busy/ex/hasbeen players and the eRepublik players are now almost a seperate group seeing nothing for them here.

Like I remember Alfagrem having to negotiate improvements and private forum access with Butjam for UKPP, with Iain saying that he shouldn't get anything. Why the flower were Butjam and Iain even invovled in that discussion when PP of the biggest party wants to use the forums and needs some tweaks or access? It just shows that the forum ISN'T for eRepublik and hasn't been for a while, yet that is where your new users come from lol - no wonder there are so few posts/threads/users here now?
Oh flower off you prick, I've had a shit couple of weeks and I'm not even arsed anymore. Stop being a prick and just leave, half tempted to jack this fucking role in and spend my last act banning you permanently. You add as much to a discussion as Anne Widdecombe's left arse cheek
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Metapod on September 29, 2014, 10:43:53 am
pfffffffffffff
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar on September 29, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
"Personally though I think something along the lines of a rebrand into some sort of UK Gaming Community with people organising to play games together as an alliance/clan etc " - ACroc about 3 pages ago.


Essentially that. I use IRC far more than the forums but even if they do pull the plug on eRep I'd still like to be apart of the eUK community. So yeah, moving to becoming a general Gaming Clan/Community would be the way to go imo

Well, from what I see and think myself, any changes that'll be made will obviously be moulded around the existing community and eRep would still be encouraged as a community - just among a number of others that we all share interests in. One thing we all mostly have in common is that we spend too much time on the internet and playing video games, so there's quite a lot that we know we'd want individual communities for. We even have some already, whether just in IRC channels, Steam or in the gaming section.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Humphrey Appleby on September 29, 2014, 02:59:23 pm
I'd like to offer my services to run the Goku appreciation community
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 29, 2014, 04:16:18 pm
Take a step back for a second here, am I really saying anything horrible to flame me on?

You can make a more prominent minecraft forum for a handful of people, having no userbase/advertising to get new people in and so therefore doomed to die out.

Or you can drastically change a few things to get all of the eRep players back in, yeah some of you will lose privileges and will have to be nicer to a few people, but you'll get a lot more new minecraft players that way.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: ApronChef on September 29, 2014, 05:04:05 pm
Take a step back for a second here, am I really saying anything horrible to flame me on?

You can make a more prominent minecraft forum for a handful of people, having no userbase/advertising to get new people in and so therefore doomed to die out.

Or you can drastically change a few things to get all of the eRep players back in, yeah some of you will lose privileges and will have to be nicer to a few people, but you'll get a lot more new minecraft players that way.

Just a few things;

Firstly; this isn't all about minecraft.

Secondly; you're a silly cabbage C U N T.

and thirdly; by be nice to some players, mean just you, yeah? You sure do hold yourself in high regard, its quite funny.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 29, 2014, 06:32:38 pm
How dare my example only list one thing, add in whatever the flower you want.

Alphabethis, Alfagem, that newbie TUP PP who wasn't given forum access...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Wayne on September 30, 2014, 10:32:02 am
But Butjam, if you permaban Goku the forum will die!
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: The Baron Samedi on September 30, 2014, 01:30:33 pm
Goku, you are too controversial, you would not do well in a leadership position, ingame or here.
I don't think you would be of much use on a forum re-organization if eRep dies.

Plus, you supposedly quitted, so...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 30, 2014, 04:22:01 pm
But Butjam, if you permaban Goku the forum will die!

Haha so true. I generate the activity... I guess that you could say that I am the forums :)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: RodneyMcKay on September 30, 2014, 04:29:05 pm
Okay, I've had enough of the derailment now.

If we can keep this topic on track that would be great.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on September 30, 2014, 06:48:56 pm
So you have three choices:
1) Cut ties with eRepublik and try to build something around other games with a massive forum improvement/revamp programme, weakness is that you'll get few if any new people as these games already have established forums, you also have nobody to lead such a reform.
2) Focus on eRepublik and give some real forum power to the actual large UK groups in the game, weakness is that some people here will lose power and they will refuse that even though they barely if ever actually play the gamey.
3) Muddle on, weakness is that you'll continue to get few posts and the forum WILL die.

You will choose 3) I'm guessing :(
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Dan Moir on September 30, 2014, 06:50:37 pm
4) Ban Goku and we can all die peacefully.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Rob the Bruce on October 01, 2014, 05:27:40 pm
Well so far nobody other than Goku supports 2), most seem to be up for 1), so er... sort it, yeah?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: VoodooMike71 on October 01, 2014, 05:39:39 pm
It will if the people who play eRepublik and have power in eRepublik are allowed to mould the forum into what they need. Give them control.

So not you then. Because you've quit, remember?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: VoodooMike71 on October 01, 2014, 05:46:23 pm
There is another option.

Create a single forum room to which everyone apart from Goku has access. He can then run riot around the rest of the forum, shitting on anything he pleases, while the rest of us concentrate on using the forum and enjoying the fact that Goku isn't there with us. flower it, give him admin access to everything (except the room with us in) and he can break everything too. Like a toddler.

Problem solved. Back to the topic...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on October 01, 2014, 06:02:07 pm
It will if the people who play eRepublik and have power in eRepublik are allowed to mould the forum into what they need. Give them control.

So not you then. Because you've quit, remember?
He'd come back at the first sniff that anyone here doesn't wish he would flower off
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Lionbeard on October 01, 2014, 06:24:51 pm
1) Cut ties with eRepublik and try to build something around other games with a massive forum improvement/revamp programme, weakness is that you'll get few if any new people as these games already have established forums, you also have nobody to lead such a reform.

Even if there was someone willing to lead such a reform, it wouldn't work anyway. We did it before and it ended in disaster following about 3 days of increased activity.

The only way I can see it working is if you all committ seppuku once erep collapses. If enough of you do it, that should generate enough interest on the news to make people check this place out. This would then allow me to lead the forum into a brave new world.

Though it might turn into a forum about Japanese ritual suicide than anything to do with gaming.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on October 01, 2014, 06:36:08 pm
It will if the people who play eRepublik and have power in eRepublik are allowed to mould the forum into what they need. Give them control.

So not you then. Because you've quit, remember?
...of course? Did you read the thread of me saying reasonable things or did someone just point you here to randomly flame (talking about your later comment I didn't quote)?

1) Cut ties with eRepublik and try to build something around other games with a massive forum improvement/revamp programme, weakness is that you'll get few if any new people as these games already have established forums, you also have nobody to lead such a reform.

Even if there was someone willing to lead such a reform, it wouldn't work anyway. We did it before and it ended in disaster following about 3 days of increased activity.

The only way I can see it working is if you all committ seppuku once erep collapses. If enough of you do it, that should generate enough interest on the news to make people check this place out. This would then allow me to lead the forum into a brave new world.

Though it might turn into a forum about Japanese ritual suicide than anything to do with gaming.
The previous attempt was someone moving a single forum to be more prominent and then saying "we are a gaming community now", I think I blinked and missed it.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: LordFarhan on October 01, 2014, 08:53:52 pm
Keeping it as a general gaming forum with different sections for different games could be good. (Minecraft/LoL/whatever) The old community would stick together on one main forum and be focused on their preferred section if enough people play.

I don't know the exact costs but if they're high and people really want to stick together, they can always contribute to Kumnaa to keep it going.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on October 01, 2014, 09:47:29 pm
See the problem is that everyone will just TALK about it, but nobody is actually going to be DOING it. It's actually pretty pointless taking things in this direction unless there is actually someone around with the power to do it.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Iain Keers on October 01, 2014, 11:21:44 pm
We can do it flower face, we're just still talking about it at this stage. It's not going to collapse overnight. Can someone ban him please?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sir Humphrey Appleby on October 01, 2014, 11:37:04 pm
yeah can we give goku some permenant assistance on his 96th quit
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Ser Fartsalot on October 05, 2014, 11:32:32 pm
The forum will eventually die once people get kids and start changing diapers, get run over by a bus or die from natural causes or drug addiction.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Sexagenarian on October 06, 2014, 04:18:43 pm
The forum will eventually die once people get kids and start changing diapers, get run over by a bus or die from natural causes or drug addiction.

Looks like I'll be the last here then, I'm going to be shot by a jealous husband when I'm 90!
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Wayne on October 06, 2014, 04:52:32 pm
The forum will eventually die once people get kids and start changing diapers, get run over by a bus or die from natural causes or drug addiction.

Looks like I'll be the last here then, I'm going to be shot by a jealous husband when I'm 90!

Next year then?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Dishmcds on October 07, 2014, 06:18:23 am
To get rid of Goku, you either go balls deep and ban him permanently just because you don't like him, or put him on an "approval" basis only, which he'd get bored to shit of since all his posts would be delayed.

In other news, for those who still have the time to be a true gaming community in a long term game, find a new one, and just quit Erep outright. It's been dead for a long time.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Diakun on October 13, 2014, 03:15:51 pm
minecraft is the future!
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Ser Fartsalot on October 14, 2014, 07:40:09 pm
Death is the only certain future. For everything else, there's MasterCard.

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 22, 2014, 04:36:48 pm
My radio station has forums that I would invite everyone to participate in if these suddenly went bye-bye.

I could even create a UK Gaming Community sub forum if you all want. It's a fresh new forum since we killed the old one.

forums.radiostar.fm (http://forums.radiostar.fm)

After all, we already assimilated Mantle and Artela ;)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on November 22, 2014, 05:43:40 pm
Radio station... 30 members online record...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 02:27:13 am
Radio station... 30 members online record...

It's a fresh new forum since we killed the old one.

 Forum History (using forum time offset)
Yearly Summary    New Topics    New Posts    New Members    Most Online
* 2014    33    104    38    30
- November 2014    33    104    38    30
2014-11-12   6   6   1   4
2014-11-13   11   18   11   14
2014-11-14   0   2   5   16
2014-11-15   2   2   3   8
2014-11-16   1   7   1   7
2014-11-17   4   17   1   17
2014-11-18   1   4   0   6
2014-11-19   3   8   1   13
2014-11-20   0   3   2   10
2014-11-21   2   8   1   11
2014-11-22   3   29   12   30


Forums were created 11/12. Your ability to grasp the English language is still being created.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on November 23, 2014, 12:30:37 pm
So a pretty good representation of your active users now then. How are you getting your radio signal to load HTML in my browser?
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Darkmantle on November 23, 2014, 06:29:06 pm
So a pretty good representation of your active users now then. How are you getting your radio signal to load HTML in my browser?

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)

RadioStar might not be the biggest radio station but the community is by far the best.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 06:30:38 pm
How are you getting your radio signal to load HTML in my browser?

The radio stream, not signal; doesn't load html into a browser. Is that even a serious question?

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130515102440/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/thumb/e/e8/Not_sure_if_trolling.jpg/500px-Not_sure_if_trolling.jpg)

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on November 23, 2014, 07:29:58 pm
Oh... so it isn't radio then since it isn't using radio signals.

It's a stream of music you like which a handful of people listen to, not a radio station.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Artela on November 23, 2014, 07:33:08 pm
Oh... so it isn't radio then since it isn't using radio signals.

It's a stream of music you like which a handful of people listen to, not a radio station.

mfw someone hasn't heard of internet radio
lol
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Darkmantle on November 23, 2014, 07:37:09 pm
Oh... so it isn't radio then since it isn't using radio signals.

It's a stream of music you like which a handful of people listen to, not a radio station.

mfw someone hasn't heard of internet radio
lol

This ^

I mean seriously...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 07:42:47 pm
Oh... so it isn't radio then since it isn't using radio signals.

It's a stream of music you like which a handful of people listen to, not a radio station.

If a handful of people means up to 2 million (maximum our technology allows at one time) then yes... a stream for a handful of people.

Before you ask, the most we had listening at once was about 65 people when I interviewed the head of Starfleet Dental - a gaming guild.

Internet radio stations are indeed radio stations.

By the way, the page you went to that our signal sent html into your browser was a forum - the same EXACT technology (SMF) used here.

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Malkaiser on November 23, 2014, 08:15:33 pm
I hope you understand I was saying that HTML thing to make a point right? Interesting that maximum capacity is how you judge things, I wonder how many of millions of people are reading this post!!!

Even if you allow "radio" as just a way to get across what it is in familiar language, you are not a "station" (organised structure to do something) since you are just an amateur in your bedroom with a miniscule audience.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Darkmantle on November 23, 2014, 08:34:02 pm
I hope you understand I was saying that HTML thing to make a point right? Interesting that maximum capacity is how you judge things, I wonder how many of millions of people are reading this post!!!

Even if you allow "radio" as just a way to get across what it is in familiar language, you are not a "station" (organised structure to do something) since you are just an amateur in your bedroom with a miniscule audience.

"Amateur in your bedroom".

Let me put it this way.. as someone who is known here for his computing knowledge, I can assure you that is NOT the case. RadioStar has a whole infrastructure, both technological and staff, so yeah...
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 08:37:15 pm
I hope you understand I was saying that HTML thing to make a point right? Interesting that maximum capacity is how you judge things, I wonder how many of millions of people are reading this post!!!

Even if you allow "radio" as just a way to get across what it is in familiar language, you are not a "station" (organised structure to do something) since you are just an amateur in your bedroom with a miniscule audience.

RadioStar has 8 volunteer DJs from around the world (including Artela and Darkmantle here in UK, in addition to Madac and Buttjam being former show hosts), three backup server in three different regions of the USA, and over 100 followers on our facebook page. We developed our own technology and also provide stream hosting, website hosting, etc for a fee to people.

While we aren't a large scale operation, yet... we are hardly "an amateur in your bedroom". LOL

Best part about this is that I offered my station's forums as a fall-over if these suddenly died. Your show of gratitude is amazing.


"Amateur in your bedroom".

Let me put it this way.. as someone who is known here for his computing knowledge, I can assure you that is NOT the case. RadioStar has a whole infrastructure, both technological and staff, so yeah...

Thanks, Mantle.

For the record... when I broadcast my show weekly... I'm in my kitchen.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Darkmantle on November 23, 2014, 08:45:47 pm
Just ignore it Jude, it's Goku.
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: Metapod on November 23, 2014, 08:47:50 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/ehvsm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 08:48:28 pm
Just ignore it Jude, it's Goku.
Ah.... From what I hear, it is the douche of the highest order.

Thanks for the information.

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: judeconnors on November 23, 2014, 08:51:02 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/ehvsm.jpg)

Epicness.

Title: Re: The Future?
Post by: RodneyMcKay on November 23, 2014, 08:51:54 pm
Enough of this.