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Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest Mod
« on: January 16, 2013, 09:11:26 am »
All,

Daily Downtime for Backup

Those online at the time last night know about this already, but heres for all those that weren't.

From today & repeated everyday at approx 20:00 daily the server will go offline for 5-10 minutes.

During this 5-10 minutes I will take a backup of ALL files and store them on a hosted server I use. These will be avaliable for you to download in event we have a server failure OR I go missing for extended period (hospital etc etc).

Am sure all agree for the sake of 5 minutes a day, this will be beneficial to all  :D

Anyone online at the time will get a 5 minute warning before I do the backup each day.

Nether

Rather than disable it completely I'm going to leave it running, BUT as last night proved please don't use it if more than 2-3 people are online.

There will be plenty of times your alone on the server so will have chance to visit the nether and I don't want to disallow us access to the great stuff in there.

Chest Mod

Ok so now the issue has been resolved and things have calmed down, do we still feel we need Chest protect or shall we leave as Vanilla setup?
For me the communal aspect appears to be working now we are all sorting seperate storage areas in our own places. So discuss.....
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 09:19:50 am »
This is a really charming little server we have going, Bask, so thanks for facilitating it, and in the way that you are :)

Chestwise, I'd like to think I can trust everyone currently on the server. I would be worried if randoms started popping up, so I'd be quite supportive of a whitelist of sorts in return for a trust-based community.
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 09:49:47 am »
WHITELIST :P


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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 10:54:36 am »
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WHITELIST :P

You need no bukkit mods to do this. Easiest way if you want to keep a "Vanilla" server.


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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 12:19:06 pm »
a daily backup isnt enough
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 12:21:56 pm »
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a daily backup isnt enough

For you guys to have access to the maps it is.

Autosave will ONLY save it to the server, which I alone have access to.

This backup will allow ALL to have access to an image at MAXIMUM 23hrs old incase I get hit by a bus, server blows up etc etc
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 12:26:11 pm »
if something cocks up that means a whole day would be lost
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 12:28:08 pm »
One day is better than Zero access at all......

Presently on the other server, Mantle has the only access to ANYTHING.

Were he hit by a bus tommorow, we'd lose EVERYTHING
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 12:33:43 pm »
his death would be more important than a server  :?
i dont see what the problem is with only one person having access, especially if it means frequent world saves.
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 12:42:23 pm »
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his death would be more important than a server  :?
i dont see what the problem is with only one person having access, especially if it means frequent world saves.

What's the point of frequent world saves if you CANT access them.....
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 12:46:29 pm »
people dont need to access them, they are just for the server admin to use if the current save is lost
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 01:01:38 pm »
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people dont need to access them, they are just for the server admin to use if the current save is lost

And HERE we have the difference that I've been getting at throughout!  :lol:

Save = Admin access in event a save is lost or something goes bad.
BACKUP = Backup of the world that ALL can access in event Admin is lost.

This will be a daily BACKUP, saves will be done as always anyway. Theres a massive difference between the two
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 01:14:33 pm »
thats highly subjective, and used interchangeably
so how frequently is the world "saved"

also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 01:30:27 pm »
Current saves are every 10 minutes via a batch file created on the server to do this.

I fail to see what the Wiki link is showing me other than describing what a Backup is....

If you want to get pedantic about stuff, then this link is what my 8pm downtime will be doing.... whereby the Backup/save is taken from MY server and stored on a remote server to ensure no data loss in a disaster event (Server dies, Admin dies)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-site_data_protection
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 01:34:02 pm »
Quote from: "BaskB"
BACKUP = Backup of the world that ALL can access in event Admin is lost.

Quote from: "Wiki"
In information technology, a backup, or the process of backing up, refers to the copying and archiving of computer data so it may be used to restore the original after a data loss event.
jus' sayin
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 01:41:20 pm »
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Quote from: "BaskB"
BACKUP = Backup of the world that ALL can access in event Admin is lost.

Quote from: "Wiki"
In information technology, a backup, or the process of backing up, refers to the copying and archiving of computer data so it may be used to restore the original after a data loss event.
jus' sayin

Your still failing to grasp what this is doing, so thus is pointless arguing further.

Good luck restoring from a save file on a server which hard drive has failed/melted, or one that you have zero access too.
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2013, 01:44:14 pm »
To explain what Baskb is getting on about.

He's doing world saves every 10 minutes via a script. Bukkit used to do this for you automatically, and if you have MyMcAdmin, (I think that's what it used to be called), that also saves for you too. So if someone comes on the world, and blows everything up, Baskb has a save from 10 minutes before that happened on the server.

On top of that, Baskb is doing an external back-up every 24 hours, so in case there is a problem with the server hardware, such as a HDD malfunction, we have a 24 hour back-up on top of that.


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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2013, 01:50:31 pm »
Ah I'd forgotten all about MyMCAdmin, will look at that one tonight cheers Smack o/
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2013, 01:51:22 pm »
i know exactly what it is doing, but you where incorrectly implying there was a difference in your definitions.
anyway why are you assuming the server admin may suddenly die, i can see the point of an accessible save but its not really that important.
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Re: Vanilla Server - Planned Daily Downtime & Nether & Chest
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 01:52:21 pm »
meh im probably being an ass, darn pills
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